Discussions will take place concurrently in 4 meeting rooms, on 2 round tables on the lawn, at the A.D gordon club, at Berl's Bar (Cafeteria ), and on the Veranda. We will assign some times and spaces, and have a signup board in the camp where you will be able to schedule addition meetings and re-schedule changes.
You define the agenda and the program at KinnerNet. We are not after polished presentations; we prefer informal discussions. View sample agenda of Kinnernet 2004, or sample time table from kinnernet 2004
To initiate a discussion, please write its topic under one of the categories below. If a suitable category for it does not exist, please create one.
To participate in any of the discussions below, please add your name next to it. Also , please write the type of session you would like to have. Some examples:
Moderated Discussion (classic)- you guide an open discussion
Panel - you present a topic, several people who signed up beforehand shortly speak and discuss
Workshop - you teach us
Lecture - you speak and inspire
Sounding board - Panel of "Advisors" is presented with application or website for quick round of comments / improvment ideas
If you have an indication of the time your seesion will take, do write is as well.
You right, Hanan. There should be "ma nishtana halayila haze" (what was change in this night), someone who asks questions. There is a wonderful saying by Heidegger, it's probably wrong but it's wonderful, he said why science boring, because it's only gives answers. That's a wonderful saying. Metaphysics and poetry asks questions. It's an unfair saying but it's worth thinking about. Answers are not the interesting thing, the questions are. (raf)
Kinnernet 2005 Discussions (sorted by categories):
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Special feature: online discussion Macromedia-Kinnernet: city hall , friday 8:30 am. Here is the recording for this session. Thanks for everyone's participation and all of the good questions. Some folks asked for the links to the applications shown in the session. They are here: Thanks to Ilan / Edna / Yossi / Asaf / Rhonni / Erez for the support of the event.
Rich Internet Applications and Communications user experiences - Innovators around the world are using rich client technologies to redefine the expectations for how a web application should perform and what it should do. Rich Clients like Macromedia Flash are changing the way users experience the Internet. How will these new technologies change applications like ecommerce, media, collaboration, e-learning, information publishing? Meanwhile, the explosion of online communications technologies are changing who we talk to (and how we talk to them!). This online discussion will examine how applications and communciations are converging to create new types of user experiences. Moderated by Tom Hale, the Camp California Telepresence Director, (West of the Atlantic) and by Ofer Adler (East of the Atlantic). Also participating : Edna Yaffe (e-learning) Ilan Greicer, Yael sahar, Ushi Krausz, Guy Vardi, Oded VardiSharon CarmelEden Shochat,Michal Levy, Ron Atzmon,neo. Since Tom and the Macromedia Crew will be in San Francisco, we'll be holding the discussion virtually in on online meeting. To participate fully, bring your wireless laptop, microphone and headphones (not mandatory). Here is the recording for this session.
Large scale innovation
Organizational Google: Concepts such as Amazon, Google, and Hotmail have changed the way people interact with the world. Much like automobiles gave birth to suburbs, these ideas changed the way we buy, search, and communicate. However, the big wave of change in the organizational world is still to be seen. What is missing? what can be done? This is a critical question, becase organizations are rsponsible for most large-scale efforts. A 10% boost in value means a much better world for all of us. See more in the "Organizational Google" editme page. Participants: Asaf Bartov, Dov Alfon, [ [ShoshannahForbes] Rolf Dobelli, Uri Baruchin] Edna YaffeOfer Adler Yuval HamudotDanny Blumenfeld,Eli Hurvitz, Heidi haLevi, Ronny Kohavi, Ron Atzmon, Ushi Krausz, neo, Nitzan Shaked
Studying the Seven Laws of Identity. Kim Cameron of Microsoft had written seven laws that are about to be discussed whenever Identity will be discussed in the near future. Everything on the web in the near future will relate to Identity this way or another. Lots of discussions on this webpage relate to Identity. I suggest reading this text together and study it as wide and as deep as we can. Hanan will bring the printed text. The other participants will bring some intelligence.
What's Cool
A separate discussion track that can be found here.
Voip and Video Conferencing - Place TBD, Friday 18:00 (Israel time) (9:00am California time) - Tom Hale - MacroMedia Joining.
Classic forum moderated by Erez Chocva, Ushi Krausz : (Add your name here)
Different players, different views ( e.g. Skype, Vonage, Verizon etc.) - Who will win? What can the Telcos do ?
VoIP is certainly disruptive technology. How quick will it happen? Faster than initially expected (like the digital camera), or slower than was initially expected (like voice recognition)?
Skype claims to be the fastest spreading software on the Internet. What makes it so successful?
Skype pro's and cons - what's so great / wrong about it?
Who needs VAS? Just the low rates, thanks ?... The ordinary ones – call control, voicemail, conference and the new ones ...What will be the killer app (if any)?
VoIP, IM, social network and video ...
Wi-fi – VoIP's truthful ally (Bring your PDA's and Wi-fi phones)
The initiative for municipal Wi-fi and its implication on VoIP ... is it for real
Is voice taking us, for the first time, "outside" of the internet to the offline world?
Open Source does VoIP: Asterisk, IAX, FWDout and will they kill Skype?
Translations Text to voice/voice to text and between Languages including Hebrew(edna yaffe) nimrod lehavi (possible to combine with the upper topic)
i want to start with a few short examples: Tiltan [Yoram , can u bring an uncassified version? ( Sure - Y.) ] , 1-2 machinima films (maybe 1 tool, something i really like) ,
But , since i think the Kinnernet crowd doesn't need an introduction to serious gaming , i'll try to raise some objection to the adoption and efficiency of these technologies
Communities of Practice: Infrastructures, applications, and methodologies to enhance and support professionals in their daily and long term work. Edna Yaffe. Participants: Uri BaruchinEli Hurvitz
Designing Killer Applications for Mobile Environment - Eliav Alaluf will present a brief presentation with basic methodology of what to look for when evaluating Killer Apps; presentation is example based, using applications connecting the internet space to the mobile one. Open discussion is encouraged.
Hardcore Web Tech
Seeing behind the firewalls (a foruminitiated by Hanan Cohen): Visitors of our websites see what we send them after our code is filtered through anti-virus programs, firewalls, proxies etc. We, as web developers, cannot know how our code reaches the web client and cannot test our code because the combinations are too many. The purpose of this forum is to gather the top notch tech peoplein the camp and bang our heads together trying to find solutions for knowing if our code reaches our users intact. You can read here (Hebrew) where it all started.
(CANCELED Due to unpopular demand) Fat Links/Xlinks (a foruminitiated by Hanan Cohen): One link per object is becoming a limitation in web technology. Jakob Nielsen writes about Fat Links. When I wrote Tim Bray about it, he pointed me to XLink. I will try and bring everything I can find about this with hope that the discussion will get us more understanding on what it is and how can it be applied today. ( look at "Co-link" conceived by Alex Primo and programmed by Ricardo Araújo, with the objective of letting any interactant create new associative links in a pre-existent text and/or add new destinations to a previous link. Edna Yaffe. )
Online Living
Bringing Your Soul Online: The Web is a place where people feel more comfortable exsposing their soul, while hiding their true identity. On the other hand, the web has been decleard as an opportunity for developing proffesional psychological and psychiatric treatments.This session will focus on false identities, soul seeking online personalities, while trying to answer several questions: Are we being ourselves online? Can we really be who we want to be online? and can we use these differences to help ourselves, to seek treatment and "fix" our soul?. (A discussion lead by: Jordan Lewinski, Participants: ( Hanan Cohen , Mushon ,Uri Baruchin, Danny Blumenfeld Anat Slonim, Shuli Gilutz, Heidi haLeviEdna yaffeindiTamar Schori , Ron Atzmon, Ayelet Yagil,)
Why do/n't I write a personal weblog:Indi, who is a great blogger, and Hanan, who doesn't have a personal weblog, will open a discussion on why they do/n't write a personal weblog. The focus of the discussion will be on the personal reasons of the participants to not/write a personal weblog. Participants: Shimon Schocken , Ron Atzmon, ,Dov Alfon,
Reinventing Education ( preparing for "Dovrat -2") :Revising, Revisioning, Reinventing,Upgrading Education with state of the art Technologies. (By Edna Yaffe. Panel)
Is education immune to innovation and change except on its margines? Why is it neglectd and ignored by the High -Tech industry? Do the new technologies give hope for change or is it another autopia?
The field of education has been slow to recognize both the impact of new learning tools and the environmental changes in what it means to learn. Connectivism provides insight into learning skills and tasks needed for learners to flourish in a digital era.)
Connectivism might be a starting point for this discussion
Participants: Asaf Bartov, Shuli Gilutz, Gil Rimon, Mushon, Heidi haLevi, Yuval Hamudot, Anat Slonim Eli Hurvitz, Eden Shochat, Eran Tromer ** Invite to participants to check out the other side of this coin (New Media models applied to Education) in the discussion under the category Education, entitled: Where are you? Online Teaching and Education and the Members of the High-Tech Industry
Education Alternatives for Smart Young Persons: public k-12 education systems, it seems to me, tend to provide a bad solution to the educational needs of about 70% of the pupils, and no solution to the bottom 20% and to the top 10% of the pupils. I'd like to consider what 21st-century technology can do for that top 10%. Proposed by Asaf Bartov, Participants: Eli Hurvitz, Ushi Krausz
Education Alternatives for Smart University students. The end of the University as we know it. IPOs of people instead of companies [by Rolf Dobelli] (could be discussed together with above)
Are Universities Educating Computer Scientists Well? Tell me why not. Participants: Noam Nisan, Shimon Schocken, Nitzan Shaked
The Last Flop, The Next Big Thing
Web 2.0 and Beyond:Bezos says: "Web 1.0 was making the Net for people. Web 2.0 is making the Internet better for computers." In the last year, many interesting new applications emerged thanks to the Web's combination of open & standardised characteristics, the popularity of the "web services approach" and the rich web applications enabled by JavaScript. If you tilt your head to the side and squint, you might even catch a glimpse of a "semantic Web" future. In this session, I would like to look together at some prime examples of new web services and discuss where is it all going? (some keywords: Amazon/Google web services, A9, Flickr, Del.icio.us, Meta-Data, Tags, Folksonomies, RSS...) (A discussion lead by: Uri Baruchin, Danny Blumenfeld Participants: Dov Alfon, Asaf Bartov, nimrod lehavi, Shoshannah Forbes,Jordan Lewinski, Tsahi Asher, Shimon Schocken, Eli Hurvitz, Ronny Kohavi , Ron Atzmon, Eden Shochat, Ohad Eder Pressman, Eran Tromer)
Email 2.0. From a product management point of view, email is lacking. The problems with email - inability to assure delivery, inability to stop arrival of "unwanted" email, etc., vulnerability, falsified ("spoofed") mail, inability to track a person during "address change", limited size of email messages compared to current needs, etc. - all represent shortcomings of email as we know it (email 1.0). A panel guided by Ido Amin will have panel participants share their thoughts on why email works so badly, and how to think about correcting it. This is not about designing an email application, or about giving anti-spam tips. Panel participants: Ido Amin, Ido Shavit, On Paradise, Uri Baruchin, nimrod lehavi, Ariel Yarnitsky, Shoshannah Forbes , Ilan Graicer , [Jordan Lewinski] Tsahi Asher, Eli ZvulunyOfer Adler, Yuval Hamudot,Ushi Krausz, Yat Siu, Eran Tromer
Beyond The Browser. The Web is now mainly the browser. Though most Online services innovation is aimed at web browser, weather we are talking about Mozilla/IE or palm/cellular browsers, there are signs of non-browser innovation catching the mass market. In this session, i would like to discuss these applications, what they mean for web content producers and what they mean for users. Terms such as RSS aggregators, Podcasting, Videora and more will be the basis for the disscusion. Lead: [Jordan Lewinski] Would like to attend: Shoshannah ForbesUri Baruchin, Tsahi Asher, Mushon,Shimon Schocken, Tamar SchoriYuval Hamudot, Shimon Schocken
Visual Programming. Niche products (e.g. MathLab, Workflow systems) have used visual notations for a long time, but generic software development packages (like those of BEA, Microsft, IBM) now also have visual programming capabilities. Will visual notations replace traditional text-based coding for a significant portion of the software development world? Will programmers embrace a technology which seems to devalue some of their basic skills? Will we all get closer to our users by focusing on function and business logic and rather than technical details? Participants: Youval Bronicki, [...]
On the Digital Nature of Living Things: and some thoughts about quantifying what we don't know about nature. My plan is to informally survey some striking similarities between the functioning of organic systems and that of computer architectures (HW and SW). By: Shimon Schocken. Participants:, Gil Rimon, On Paradise, Heidi haLevi , Tamar Schori [enter your names here]
The Era of Digital Spirituality(?) OR: Penultimate Paradoxes and the Search for Transcendence. How are digital technologies changing the human search for meaning? or in practical form: what - if any - is the added value inherent in technology? How does technology interact with our personal and collective thought processeson hidden and intimate levels? To do this, bring some of your favorite digital paradoxes (via McLuhan's Media Laws) For instance - control inherent in freedom; meaning revealed through noise; the collaborative generated through competition. By: Heidi haLevi. Participants: Uri Baruchin, Tamar Schori, Yael Givon, neo.
Technology and Genderites All female participants are invited to take part in a gender-hack - The Girl's Club. What is the gender-persona of new media/digital technologies? Is the shift we see in cultural / social / scientific / technological paradigms opening new possibilities and playing grounds for women and power? What are the implications of these for our future personal and professional lives? Disclaimer 1: Despite the gender-neutral nature of the English language, this message is intended for women only. Sorry guys ;) (what if we come with a skirt?) Disclaimer 2: It is fully expected and encouraged that this discussion be brought back into the mixed-gendered reality of the camp. Participants: Heidi haLevi, Tamar Schori, Indi, Ayelet Yagil, neo.
Art and Technology Palpare - The making of + Oodlala, Memolog, Beadgee information visualization, the bridge between art and the industry.Experiences and Insights - Tamar Schori
The Demo-Scene
"A demo is a program that displays a sound, music, and light show, usually in 3D. Demos are very fun to watch, because they seemingly do things that aren't possible on the machine they were programmed on."
What's this thing called the demo-scene? Lots of demos will be shown, a blast for art/multimedia lovers) - Ohad Eder-Pressman, Parcitipants: __
The long Tail - certainly one of the most fascinating and widely praised and discussed Marketing/Ecommerce articles of the past year. I'd like us to look at that model, come up with as many examples we can think of, and answer a question that is really bugging me: "Is the Israeli market large enough for long-tail and other critical-mass dependant phenomena?" (By: Uri Baruchin, Participants: Dov Alfon, Jordan Lewinski,Shoshannah Forbes ,Ayelet Yagil , Yael Sahar, Ronny Kohavi [enter you name here])
Towards Machine Laying Gold Eggs: Can Financial Markets Be Predicted? By: Roostam Tiger. Participants: Shimon Schocken, Ushi Krausz, Eden Shochat [enter you name here]
Open source
From passive users to an active community- In the world of closed source software, users are by and large passive- waiting for the next version, for the next patch, for the next feature. Open Source software expects users to be much more active- To report bugs, to ask for new features, to be part of the development process. How exactly does the open source practice work? What are the social relationships between developers and users in the open source world? How does one transfer from the passive to the active frame of mind? And would such an active model scale for applications that are used by a large number of people? (By: Shoshannah Forbes) Participants: Asaf Bartov, Gil Rimon, nimrod lehavi, Nitzan Shaked, Jordan Lewinski,Uri Baruchin, Heidi haLevi, Tsahi Asher, gby ..., Yael Givon, neo, Eran Tromer
Leading in an open environment. Open Source development projects operate untraditionally: forget Outlook, think Bugzilla. Authority and influence exist, of course, but take different shapes. Ask Mozilla or Open Office developers about working together and they will often talk about debugging features - but how did those features come into being? How do you "lobby" for features, what are the mechanisms of internal politics, what tools and environments should you master? Academia does not yet offer courses in "Open Source Project Leadership", so the next best is this attempt to get some Open Source people to join a discussion panel. Please join the panel if you have Open Source development background and wouldn't mind sharing some insights. - [by] Ido Amin, Participants: Shoshannah Forbes, gby, neo, Youval Bronicki, [...]
Open Source Learning - Inroads Into Social Change Teaching Interactive Scripting (UCD Design) to a unique group of 2nd year students of Interactive Media at a Southern College, raised a number of interesting challenges - didactic, collective and intrapersonal. Working within a standardized and formalized learning system interacting with the cultural background and mentality of the students brought up deeper issues of personal and social responsibility. Applying the principles of User-Centered Design in a reflective manner (inspired by a Constructivist, and Open-Source approach), led to a unique and incredibly enriching learning experience. This enabled the students t
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